A Contraversial Dialogue:

Correspondence with M.Alex du Prel,
Director and Editor of "Tahiti-Pacifique"

Following is a dialogue between us and Alex du Prel, Director and Editor of the French Polynesian magazine, Tahiti-Pacifique. We have chosen to publish publicly these letters to illustrate the kind of chauvinistic attitude we are facing as we struggle against those who insist on the enforcement of a law which, like slavery, has been officially dismantled.

"Chapeau Alex !" Initial message, 23 Nov 1998
The letter is a polite one, explaining our bond issue and complementing Alex du Prel on having a critical and progressive magazine in French Polynesia.

"Cool down" Response of Alex du Prel, 23 Nov 1998
Alex du Prel wants to teach me to shut up and pay the bond anyhow, and especially to keep out of "his" Polynesia (note that he sailed here 25 years ago from his home in the USA)

"Cool down?" My response of 24 Nov 1998
Attempting to address point by point M. du Prel's alarming attitude, I ask him several direct questions here which still remain ignored, such as, "Why should we pay the bond when French citizens are exempt?"

"Unbelievable!" Response of Alex du Prel, 25 Nov 1998
M. du Prel's reply, calling me a paranoid, ignorant neo-colonist. Oh, and God forbid, a woman with a mouth, too. Of course after all his insults he asks me to not write to him again.

"Mehr als Unglaublich" My reply of 26 Nov 1998
Of course I'm going to write to this man again. If he is supposed to be a critical voice in French Polynesia, imagine what kind of people we have to look forward to who are considered conservative status-quo! I once again ask him the uncomfortable question:
"... why should we pay the bond, Alex?"

"Final message" Response from Alex du Prel of 26 Nov 1998
M. Alex du Prel's "Final Message Solution," a cowardly cop-out not responding to any of my direct questions, and acting like he showed our correspondence to people who laughed at my point of view.

"Better than Vegas!" Achim’s response of 28 Nov 1998
Achim decided to take the reigns on this last letter, which Alex du Prel has not had the courage to reply to yet.

"Lots of Empty Space" for Alex du Prel's answers to our questions......

Email des Webmaster - in Deutsch Helmut van Straelen

Antwort von Mr. du Prel an den Webmaster- in DeutschSubject: Tahiti

next fight with Erika A MUST to read!

"Chapeau Alex !" Initial message, 23 Nov 1998
to: tahitipm@mail.pf

Cher Alex, Maitre de Tahiti-Pacifique:
Je revois cette lettre, puisque je l'ai envoye a l'addresse tahiti@mail.pf sans
reponse, et quelqu'un m'a donne cet autre addresse, tahitipm@mail.pf...

J'espere que tu va pouvoir supporter le francais d'une etrangere americaine avec
un clavier qui ne fait pas d'accents, et une cervelle qui ne fait que des betises.

Ceci n'est pas une lettre "courrier des lectures," mais si tu trouves une graine
dedans que tu voudrais que j'elargisse, mets moi courant et je serais contente de
tenter quelquechose de plus detaille, vu toujours avec besoin d'un editeur fr.
langue maternelle!

Cette lettre est envoye du voilier PANGAEA, au mouillage a Atuona, Hiva Oa,
Marquises, l'endroit ou la grande partie des voyageurs de la mer font leur
premier escale en Polynesie apres le plus long passages des oceans, depuis
Galapagos.

Nous sommes actuellement en train de nous battre contre un "loi" de caution de
rapatriement que le gendarme ici nous exige, bien que nous sommes de pavillon
allemand. Les europeens, d'apres ce que nous comprenons, ont la meme droit
de venir ici sans caution que les francais. A partir de demain, d'apres le
gendarme ici, je serais "clandestine," puisque il m'a refuse le Visa sans avoir
paye ce caution (je suis citoyenne americaine, residente Allemagne et mariee
avec un allemand depuis 7 ans).

C'etait a Fatu Hiva que j'ai rencontre un monsieur qui lit ton journal. Apres avoir
entendu notre histoire, il m'a prete ton exemplaire, "Immigration: le grand Debat."
Je te cite d'ailleurs qu'il m'a raconte que des certaines gens dans son
communaute, ayant appris qu'il lis le "F-P," ne lui parlent ni saluent plus, inclus le
maire du village.

Je vois depuis un mois ici des injustices et de la hypocrisie et de l'ignorance sur
tant de niveaux. Ici, c'est un pays de beaute ineffable, d'un chaleur tellement
attractif, que ca vaut la peine de vouloir... quoi? Le sauver? Mais de qui? Les
gens comme moi? Et comment? En disant "Tiens, je suis la, toi, t'en va!?"

Je commence donc avec des details qui m'effect personnellement... la caution.
C'est notre petit champ de bataille ou peut-etre je peux deja commencer a
exposer des hypocrisies d'un gouvernement qui a signe la traite de Maastricht et
qui veut en avoir les avantages sans devoir faire faces aux devoirs.

J'aimerais te mettre courant sur les deroulements de legalite vis a vis notre
combat de ce loi de caution. En outre, il y a tant de sujets qui m'intriguent ici que
je vais traiter dans mon website. La maire de Hiva Oa, les mensonges de Thor
Hayerdahl, parmi autres. Nous serons probablement aux Marquises jusqu'au
mois de Mars.

Si tu as le temps, et parle un peu l'anglais, (je crois d'avoir lu que t'a du sang
anglais qquepart) venez voir mon site de Web, qui est d'une maniere mon p'tit
"Tahiti Pacifique personnelle." J'y ecris regulierement tous les aventures qui
nous arrivent dans les pays divers. J'ai ete rejete d'etre parmi les cites sponsore
par "www.goals.com" puisque mes recits sont trop "risque," et peuvent "poser
des problemes" (puisque je dis la verite, comme sur le centre de recherche
scientifique a Galapagos, cette histoire de caution ici, etc.) Il y aura toujours une
partie des lecteurs sur la croisiere qui veulent entendre du mouillage, les
amenites, le meteo, les prix dans certaines magasins. Moi, je colle plutot au
proverbe d'un de mes ecrivains prefere, Charles Bukowski:
The Important Thing
Is the Obvious Thing
That NO ONE is saying.

des gros remerciments, J'espere avoir un mot de toi bientot,
Erika Ginsberg-Klemmt, AC6IH
s/y Pangaea



"Cool down" Response of Alex du Prel, 23 Nov 1998
From :
tahitipm@mail.pf

Dear Erika

Cool down :
Regarding the caution : it exists since 1970. You can thank the company
"WESTSAIL" for it. At that time, they used to hold seminars on the US West
coast to sell their sailboats, a slide show where they explained that
people were stupid not to sail to the Marquesas and Tahiti, where
Polynesians would be so glad to see them that they would throw bananas and
wahinis at you. It started a massive exodus of a bunch of penniless hippies
on more or less safe boats who ended in Tahiti and had to be shipped back
to the US by the French gvt.

>C'est notre petit champ de bataille ou peut-etre je peux deja
>commencer a exposer des hypocrisies d'un gouvernement qui a signe la
>traite de Maastricht et qui veut en avoir les avantages sans devoir
>faire faces aux devoirs. J'aimerais te mettre courant sur les deroulements
>de legalite vis a vis
>notre combat de ce loi de caution.

Just pay the caution but insist in putting it on a US dollar !!! savings
account that pays interest.
Please don't try to have European laws applied here, it makes no sense.
Didn't you sail all the way out here to escape germanistic law and order?
Take the people the way they are. Just imagine what the Marquesas would be
if suddenly 2.000 Germans would emigrate there (It happened in Tonga in
1972) because you imposed Brussel laws there . A "Bratwurst" stand on every
beach ? Naturist clubs ? Biergardens ? "Blaskapellen"? Remember
Mallorca

Please cool down don(t "fuck up" these Marquesas I love so much! Especially forget the bloody German "Rechthaberei", it is anti Polynesian. Enjoy, don't destroy.

> Je te cite d'ailleurs qu'il m'a raconte
>que des certaines gens dans son communaute, ayant appris qu'il lis le
>"F-P," ne lui parlent ni saluent plus, inclus le maire du village.

Oui, je sais que le maire Guy Rauzy est en ce moment fache avec moi. Mais
tout ce que j'ai ecrit est exact. Ca lui passera.

Merci pour votre E-mail

Fair winds
Sincerely
Alex
(I sailed in 25 years ago)

Alex W. duPREL
Directeur de la Publication /Editor
TAHITI-PACIFIQUE Magazine
B.P. 368, MOOREA, French Polynesia
Tel : (+689) 56 28 94
Fax : (+689) 56 30 07
E-mail : <tahitipm@mail.pf>

Website : <http://www.tahitiweb.com/f/info/index.html>



"Cool-down?" My response of 24 Nov 1998
tahitipm@mail.pf

Alex, there was NOTHING in your letter that made me feel I should cool down. if
anything, it riled me even more. And disappointed me, I must say.

>Regarding the caution : it exists since 1970.

Meaning, "cool down, considering *I* somehow avoided paying it back then when
I sailed in here 25 years ago, and you guys are simply screwed?"

It's a shame that a few sailboats ruined it for the rest of us 28 years ago. That
was then, this is now. Thanks for helping to ruin the world for us.

Scared I'm a penniless hippie? They can ask to see capability of funds, then.
The Visa can take care of how long we can or cannot stay, like in every other
country. Nowhere else in the world do we have to pay bond, tying up our money
so we can't spend it here. You yourself, like us, were then one of these
"penniless hippies", in the eyes of some other guy who arrived before YOU did, I
take it.

>Just pay the caution but insist in putting it on a US dollar !!!
>savings account that pays interest.

Why should I? The "penniless hippie" Frenchman can come in and not have to
pay, why should we? Why should there be ANY place in the world where
someone from California has to pay bond when they arrive in Hawaii, but NOT
someone from Nevada? Especially if BOTH those states give money to Hawaii??

Are you going to tell me because this is "France," here? If it is, then be French-
French European about it. And if it's NOT France, it's something else, then ask
the POLYNESIANS whether THEY want the French to come in without paying
bond, not the rest of the EEC. What do you think they would say? Or can't the
Polynesians think for themselves? Please ask all our friends here in Atuona,
they were all in church praying for our cause yesterday afternoon. Unlike a
"foreigner" like you, who tells me to pay and shut up.

> Please don't try to have European
>laws applied here, it makes no sense.

A little late, In my opinion Alex. Should have thought of those consequences
BEFORE becoming a United Europe. I'm Californian and NOT anti-German like
you obviously are. Then get your greedy hands OUT of the FED if you're not
willing to show a little respect for those who are shelling out the big bucks to keep
France's little colony going here!!

>Didn't you sail all the way out
>here to escape germanistic law and order?

Alex, I am shocked, surprised and really disappointed it this attitude. You've
obviously been watching WAY too many Heil Hitler movies and probably you
have never even been to Germany. I'm Jewish myself and feel quite at home in
Hamburg, thanks. I didn't sail to escape anywhere, perhaps YOU did. By the
way, there's something VERY Vichy about the FRENCH and THEIR law and
order. Looks like their cheese and perfume made it bigger in the media.

>Take the people the way they
>are.

What people are we taking the way they are? The gendarme? The nuclear
testers? The sweet people here who drove with us to Hanapaaoa today and let
us help them fix their crane? Alex, I blow the whistle if something seems wrong,
and whistle a VERY happy tune when things feel right, and I can only use my
intuition, wisdom and judgement calls on who to "take the way they are" and who
to stand up against!

Why else do you have this magazine? To take people 'the way they are?" Doubt
it.

>Just imagine what the Marquesas would be if suddenly 2.000 Germans
>would emigrate there (It happened in Tonga in 1972)

Is this a REAL JOURNALIST speaking here? Aren't you exaggerating?

It's OK if you yourself move freely about our wonderful planet earth with positive
intention and good will, but nobody else can.

Since you came here first 25 years ago, do YOU now hold the BIG STICK to
keep every one out, behaving yourself like a Gestapo, while insulting other
countries?

>A "Bratwurst" stand on every beach ? Naturist
>clubs ? Biergardens ? "Blaskapellen"?
> don't "f** up" these Marquesas I love so much!

It really makes me sick that you can be so presumptuous, Alex, to come and
settle in a place and then ask me please not to "fu** up" (this is over radio, no
four letter words, please) these Marquesas. Have a bit of trust and openness.
You too came here as a sailor. PLEASE *YOU* don't FU** it up with your, "sorry,
no more room in the inn, you guys just want to build a Bratwurst stand and a
hotel, or you're penniless hippies." The fact is you sound REALLY insecure, like
you're afraid you are losing the little piece of land you fought so hard for. I don't
want to take anything from you. Most cruisers don't. I'm amazed at your attitude.

Remember Mallorca
Actually, I do, thanks. Just get out of the main tourist area and it was wonderful.

>Especially
>forget the bloody German "Rechthaberei", it is anti Polynesian. Enjoy,
>don't destroy.

I can't believe this BS, Alex! Right now Germany just elected a *Green party* as
its official ruling party, and while you sat around letting people "be who they are"
the FUC*ING French have been dropping nuclear bombs in "your" backyard,
truly destroying, and you're gonna tell me the Germans might ruin "your"
islands???

SICK SICK you are. Please turn off your TV set.
Nazi Germany is well over 50 years ago.
Le Pen Reigns TODAY!

Don't tell me about Rechthaberei. Laws are meant to protect people from
criminality and injustice. I have nothing against that, do you? Let this case go to
court! Believe me, I trust WAY more in a European court than I do in a
hypocritical, sometimes France-sometimes not Court!

>> Je te cite d'ailleurs qu'il m'a raconte >que des certaines gens dans
>son communaute, ayant appris qu'il lis le >"F-P," ne lui parlent ni
>saluent plus, inclus le maire du village.
>
>Oui, je sais que le maire Guy Rauzy est en ce moment fache avec moi.
>Mais tout ce que j'ai ecrit est exact. Ca lui passera.

For your information, Guy Rauzy is the mayor of Atuona on the island of HIVA
OA. Better get the Marquesas you love so much a little straighter. If you had
read my Email closer you will see I said the mayor in FATU HIVA, not the mayor
of ATUONA in Hiva Oa. I thought you and Rouzy would have gotten along since
you both have a bone to pick with Flosse, but I see even there I was mistaken.

Thanks for taking your time anyway, extremely disappointed,
Erika Ginsberg-Klemmt
s/y Pangaea
http://www.pangaea.to/tahiti
erika@pangaea.to

PS: Just a reminder of something you ignored that I said in my first letter:

Je vois depuis un mois ici des injustices et de la hypocrisie et de l'ignorance sur
tant de niveaux. Ici, c'est un pays de beaute ineffable, d'un chaleur tellement
attractif, que ca vaut la peine de vouloir... quoi? Le sauver? Mais de qui? Les
gens comme moi? Et comment? En disant "Tiens, je suis la, toi, t'en va!?"

That's exactly what it sounds like you do.

All yours, Alex. All for you. Just want my husband to sign the check, right?



"Unbelievable!" Response of Alex du Prel, 25 Nov 1998
From: tahitipm@mail.pf
Wed,
Point by point, to smooth your paranoia :

>>Regarding the caution : it exists since 1970. Meaning, "cool down,
>>considering *I* somehow avoided paying it back then when I sailed in here
>>25 years ago, and you guys are simply screwed?"

You invent. Who said that ? I arrived in 74. I paid it too.

>Scared I'm a penniless hippie? They can ask to see capability of funds,
>then. The Visa can take care of how long we can or cannot stay, like in
>every other country. Nowhere else in the world do we have to pay bond,
>tying up our money so we can't spend it here. You yourself, like us,
>were then one of these "penniless hippies", in the eyes of some other
>guy who arrived before YOU did, I take it.

Paranoia again! I never said anything like that !

>>Just pay the caution but insist in putting it on a US dollar !!!
>>savings account that pays interest. >Why should I?

I said that to help you. There are rumors regarding devaluation. More paranoia.

The "penniless hippie" Frenchman can come in and not have
>to pay, why should we? Why should there be ANY place in the world where
>someone from California has to pay bond when they arrive in Hawaii, but
>NOT someone from Nevada? Especially if BOTH those states give money to
>Hawaii??

Then why don't you sail to great Hawaii ? You compare Europe, many
nations, with the US, one nation. French Polynesia is an overseas
Territory, NOT a department like Guadeloupe. It is NOT part of the E.U. The
little money FP gets from Europe, it gets it though the Lome Convention,
like Fiji, Tanzania or Vanuatu. This is not Europe. You got things mixed
up.
>
>Are you going to tell me because this is "France," here? If it is, then
>be French-French European about it. And if it's NOT France, it's
>something else, then ask the POLYNESIANS whether THEY want the French to
>come in without paying bond, not the rest of the EEC. What do you think
>they would say? Or can't the Polynesians think for themselves? Please
>ask all our friends here in Atuona, they were all in church praying for
>our cause yesterday afternoon.

No one ever asked the Polynesian if they wanted to be European (neither
French). They don't feel that way. But it is YOU who wants to make us part
of Europe !

>Unlike a "foreigner" like you, who tells
>me to pay and shut up.
Yes, I'm a foreigner. A US citizen, by the way.

>> Please don't try to have European
>>laws applied here, it makes no sense.
>A little late, In my opinion Alex. Should have thought of those
>consequences BEFORE becoming a United Europe.

See above. F.P. is not part of Europe

Then get your greedy hands OUT of
>the FED if you're not willing to show a little respect for those who are
>shelling out the big bucks to keep France's little colony going here!!

Again : F.P. got last year much less from Europe than Fiji. No greedy hands.
>
>>Didn't you sail all the way out
>>here to escape germanistic law and order?
>>Alex, I am shocked, surprised and really disappointed it this attitude.
>You've obviously been watching WAY too many Heil Hitler movies and
>probably you have never even been to Germany.

My mother was German. I lived there 5 years and went to "Gymnasium" from
age 12 to age 16. Wanna bet I speak better German than you ?

> I'm Jewish myself and
>feel quite at home in Hamburg, thanks.

I'm protestant and feel at home in Tahiti.

> I didn't sail to escape
>anywhere, perhaps YOU did.

Finaly you wrote something true. Yep, I escaped here to get away from
histeric, rightous, paranoiac, frustrated and domineering Western females.
but they keep after me

>What people are we taking the way they are? The gendarme? The nuclear
>testers? The sweet people here who drove with us to Hanapaaoa today and
>let us help them fix their crane? Alex, I blow the whistle if something
>seems wrong, and whistle a VERY happy tune when things feel right, and I
>can only use my intuition, wisdom and judgement calls on who to "take
>the way they are" and who to stand up against!

Don't you give me lessons. I'm the only print media to have denounced and
exposed French nuclear test problems
and have dearly paid for it.

>>Just imagine what the Marquesas would be if suddenly 2.000 Germans
>>would emigrate there (It happened in Tonga in 1972)
>Is this a REAL JOURNALIST speaking here? Aren't you exaggerating?

You know absolutely nothing about the Pacific, how sad.

>>forget the bloody German "Rechthaberei", it is anti Polynesian. Enjoy,
>>don't destroy.

Let me give you a perfect example for "Rechthaberei" : some broad who spent
only a few weeks in the Marquesas is telling some poor guy who has lived
here 25 years, who speaks the local language, who is married with a
Polynesian, that she knows everything better, the laws, the people,
everything. Sounds familiar, no ?

That's enough. I'm tired. You must Liberated female N0 12 751 and Do Gooder
N0 26 320 who comes here and wants to change everything.
It has no sense to explain things to you, you know everything and are the
only person in the world who sees the truth

Did you know there is a name for Western people who arrive in Third world
countries and want to change everything, explaining the poor exploited
natives what is right for them, what they should do because this person
knows everything so much better than the natives and could fix a crane :
Neo-colonialist !

To finish, a little true story. Evenso you know everything, you don't know
I created and operated the Bora Bora Yacht club in the 70's and 80's. There
we had as guests about 300 yachts a year, roughly 90% of those who sailed
around the World. At the time, during a visit, I had one of those rare
mom-son talks with my mother, a Grand Lady of excellent breading and
international class : "Mom, I know you'r German and I don't want to hurt
you, but I must admit that I have a constant problem with German passing
yachts. About 20% are absolutely great people, excellent company of great
class. But the remaining 80% are constant trouble, they fight among
themselves while crossing the Pacific, bitching, and especially their never
ending "Rechthaberei". Mom, I'm sorry to say so, but I get to the point
where I just can't stand the Germans anymore, I avoid them as much I can
"
My mother, 100% German ("Deutsches Uradel", ask your hubby what it means)
replied : "Don't feel guilty, son, it is the same thing with me
"

That's all. Do whatever you want, but please get off my E-mail where you
never were invited.
How can you carry so much hatred ? How miserable life must be for you

P.S. I'm keeping your E-mails. There are just too unbelievable. Some day
I'll write a short story about them
Alex W. duPREL
Directeur de la Publication /Editor
TAHITI-PACIFIQUE Magazine
B.P. 368, MOOREA, French Polynesia
Tel : (+689) 56 28 94
Fax : (+689) 56 30 07
E-mail : <tahitipm@mail.pf>

Website : <http://www.tahitiweb.com/f/info/index.html>



"Mehr als Unglaublich" My reply of 26 Nov 1998

Alex,
Although you made it very clear that you didn't want me to write back to you,
considering I'm an awful one of these American liberal Cun*s who seem to follow
you to the ends of the earth to attack you, I might as well live up to your image.

> >Scared I'm a penniless hippie? They can ask to see capability of
>funds, >then.
>
>Paranoia again! I never said anything like that !

Alex, you misunderstood. When I say "scared I'm a penniless hippie," of course I
didn't mean YOU are scared personally. That's why I use the pronoun "they." I
meant the French Polynesian governement who imposes the caution law even
after it has officially been lifted in 1996. No European who arrives in Tahiti by
plane has to have a round trip ticket anymore, but the gendarme of Atuona does
not enforce this.

>>>Just pay the caution but insist in putting it on a US dollar !!!
>>>savings account that pays interest. >Why should I?
>
>I said that to help you. There are rumors regarding devaluation. More
>paranoia.

That's not paranoia, I am saying exactly that. If anything, right there You are
paranoid that I am attacking YOU. I am attacking the caution. I know you mean
to help me, I guess I didn't thank you for your meaning to help. You are more
than entitled to your opinion on this matter. You never did answer the question,
though... why SHOULD I pay the caution, Alex? Can you tell me why, please?
Not why it was started 25 years ago, but why they are still trying to make us pay
it even if the law has officially been turned around?

> French Polynesia is an overseas
>Territory, NOT a department like Guadeloupe.

But don't you agree that EVERY citzen of French Polynesia has French
citizenship and all fo the rights thereof?

>Yes, I'm a foreigner. A US citizen, by the way.
So how can you stay in your stance about keeping foreigners out if you are one
yourself? I see nothing hateful or wrong about the question, and you haven't
answered it.

>Again : F.P. got last year much less from Europe than Fiji.
I'm afraid I have heard another story on this. Without direct confirmation from the
FED, I would have a hard time discerning. Nevertheless, Polynesians have the
same rights as the French do, and the French have European rights at this point,
which are not reciprocated in terms of this caution law. Do you really disagree
with that fact?

>My mother was German. I lived there 5 years and went to "Gymnasium"
>from age 12 to age 16. Wanna bet I speak better German than you ?
Echte geil! Sicherlich hast du in Suddeutschland gelebt, oder? Wahrscheinlich
wenn es in Norden waere, hattest du eine schoener erringerung davon.

>Finaly you wrote something true. Yep, I escaped here to get away from
>histeric, rightous, paranoiac, frustrated and domineering Western
>females. but they keep after me

Woah! Who's the one with the hatred? Talk about sorry and miserable! Unless
it's your warped sense of humor.

>> >What people are we taking the way they are? The gendarme? The
>nuclear >testers? The sweet people here who drove with us to Hanapaaoa
>today and >let us help them fix their crane? Alex, I blow the whistle
>if something >seems wrong, and whistle a VERY happy tune when things
>feel right, and I >can only use my intuition, wisdom and judgement
>calls on who to "take >the way they are" and who to stand up against!

>Don't you give me lessons. I'm the only print media to have denounced
>and exposed French nuclear test problems and have dearly paid for it.

That's my point! Who's trying to give you lessons? I was merely pointing out
what you had said: "take people the way they are." If there's a defensive person
who seems to need to feel right here (that's the true definition of Rechthaberei) It
seems to be coming from you. Sadly defensive.

I'm standing up against something I see as injust. You are categorically
supporting the injustice, and I am supposed to sit back and accept that because
you are the editor of this magazine? Don't forget, my first letter to you started out
called "Chapeau, Alex!" I recognized the value in what you were doing in your
fight. You absolutely did NOT recognize the value in mine. I don't think that's
paranoia.

>>>Just imagine what the Marquesas would be if suddenly 2.000 Germans
>>>would emigrate there (It happened in Tonga in 1972)
>Is this a REAL
>JOURNALIST speaking here? Aren't you exaggerating?

>You know absolutely nothing about the Pacific, how sad.

Wow, a very astute response that says nothing. Now THAT is sad. How about
educating instead of insulting, if you think you know so much about the 1972
migration of 2,000 Germans to Tonga? I'm all ears. And what was the result?
And what indications do we have that, by enforcing the recent lifting of the bond,
this would ultimately happen here in French Polynesia?

>Let me give you a perfect example for "Rechthaberei" : some broad who
>spent only a few weeks in the Marquesas is telling some poor guy who
>has lived here 25 years, who speaks the local language, who is married
>with a Polynesian, that she knows everything better, the laws, the
>people, everything. Sounds familiar, no ?

Actually, Alex, I never ever said I know everything better than you. Reread my
letter to you. I was really shocked at your unfounded attitude towards Germans
and your "auslander raus" attitude vis a vis tahiti considering you are a foreigner.

> That's enough. I'm tired. You must Liberated female N0 12 751 and Do
>Gooder N0 26 320 who comes here and wants to change everything.

You really had some bad experience with a woman at some point, it sounds like.
I didn't bring it up myself, you did. So you hate both assertive women and
Germans? That's what it sounds like. I didn't want to change everything, once
again, I only wanted the right to not pay caution.

> Did you know there is a name for Western people who arrive in Third
>world countries and want to change everything, explaining the poor
>exploited natives what is right for them, what they should do because
>this person knows everything so much better than the natives and could
>fix a crane : Neo-colonialist !

That's a mean and awful thing to say. Tell me, what is wrong with helping
someone fix a crane, or a car, or anything, wherever we go? You are mean
spirited, Alex. Please don't tell me about hatred in the heart. And If there's a
Westerner who arrived here trying to change everything, You are the Number
One.

>I must admit that I have a constant
>problem with German passing yachts.

SOrry to hear that. I've had wonderful experiences in the last 6 years with
German sailboats, but I didn't work in a marina, either.

>My mother, 100%
>German ("Deutsches Uradel", ask your hubby what it means) replied :
>"Don't feel guilty, son, it is the same thing with me "

I understand this complex. Many Germans of your mother's generation wanted
to escape the negative heritage of Germany and fled to America to become
American. I have friends from Laguna Beach (where I grew up) who I never
even thought of as having German ancestry until I met my husband. When I
came back after being married, and with excitement said to my girlfriend, "Gina
Oster! It's so funny I never thought of you as 'Regine Oster,' and her German
born mother replied, 'Shut up, don't ever pronouce our name in that Nazi
language way again!" It's sad when people can't embrace their background, but I
also think it's even sadder when they can't remember it, when it's been erased for
them.

>That's all. Do whatever you want, but please get off my E-mail where
>you never were invited.

I'm afraid you put your email address in your magazine. If you mean you don't
want me to write back to you and that you need the last rechthaberei word, so be
it.

>How can you carry so much hatred ? How
>miserable life must be for you.

If you want to see how miserable I am and how much hatred I carry inside of me
please feel free to spend the few CFPs to access my website, which recently
toppled 9,000 hits by word of mouth in the last weeks.

> P.S. I'm keeping your E-mails. There are just too unbelievable. Some
>day I'll write a short story about them

I'm flattered, in a wierd way. I'll keep yours too, but maybe just to show to your
BMW advertiser.

Sincerely,
Erika Ginsberg-Klemmt



"Final message" Response from Alex du Prel of 26 Nov 1998
From: tahitipm@mail.pf

Erika

>I'm flattered, in a wierd way. I'll keep yours too, but maybe just to
>show to your BMW advertiser.

Yep. that sure says it all. Had you been a few years older, you would have
run to show it to the Gestapo

Please go right ahead
the BMW dealer in Tahiti is Chinese
and an old
friend ! I want him to have a good laugh too.

On tuesday, I went to Tahiti where I had lunch with people who contribute
to the magazine, among which a university professor and a scientific. I
showed them your E-mails. They all screamed and laughed so much, some
holding their bellies, that the restaurant owner came over to the table to
ask if there was a problem with his food !
Thanks for the grand entertainment ! Better than Vegas !

Alex W. duPREL
Directeur de la Publication /Editor
TAHITI-PACIFIQUE Magazine
B.P. 368, MOOREA, French Polynesia
Tel : (+689) 56 28 94
Fax : (+689) 56 30 07
E-mail : <tahitipm@mail.pf>

Website : <http://www.tahitiweb.com/f/info/index.html>



"Better than Vegas!" Achim’s response of 28 Nov 1998
tahitipm@mail.pf

Dear Alex,
Years ago I was in one ship with David Mc Taggart, Brice Lalonde and Remi
Parmentier, so I do not feel entirely comfortable attacking your critical voice here
in French Polynesia.

I got stuck as I was trying to explain to Erika your pride in your German "Uradel"
decent, which I found rather unusual for somebody with a leftist, intellectual
image. Noble decent meant during both World Wars that you were born to play at
least an officers leading role in the military. Thankfully this has eased up in our
times.
I come from an entirely "Plebs" background and the only Nobel thing in my family
is the Physics Prize of 1989.
To avoid false accusations it would help my explanation to Erika if I could find out
whether your family stems from e.g. the:

- von Stauffenbergs, Graf Claus Schenk
- von Moltkes, Graf Helmut James
- von Stuelpnagels, General Carl-Heinrich
- von Hofackers, Oberleutnant Caesar
- ...

or the

- von Ribbentropps, NSDAP Foreign Minister
- von Bohlen und Halbachs, Cannon Builder Alfried Krupp
- von Mansteins, General Erich
- von Rundstedts, General Gerd
- von Bocks, Field Marshal Fedor
- von Arnims, General Jürgen
- von Brauns, Dear "Yankee" Wernher, Director of the German Rocket
Research Center at Peenemünde, 1937 to 1945
- von Clausewitz', Karl von, Author "On War."
- . . .

Do you know the difference ?

Did your family had to flee Germany in the '30s, or were they on the run AFTER
1945?

Yes I can thank the "Uradel" and my own family for a lot of things. Positive and
negative ones.

I am aware of the fact that Erika raised many for you uncomfortable issues. To
abort our fruitful dialogue with your "final-message solution" would be a shame,
since you have avoided to address Erika's main points in your emotional
statements.

I want to remind you again that we are still waiting for your version of "The
German invasion of Tonga in 1972, where we(who?how?what?) imposed
Brussels laws."

What future do YOU imagine for French Polynesia?
-A safe paradise "La France d'Abord" style, with exclusive privileges for retired
"ancien combattant de Muroroa" bomb testers ?

-An eldorado for millionaires who can buy a whole island in cash and hire the
local population as servants like your compatriot and advertiser Marlon
Brando?

-A hideaway for runaway noble people who kept "the bananas" and married
"the wahinis that were thrown at them?" (These are your quotes from the
23Nov, not Erika's).

What is "Rechthaberei" for you Alex, means justice to me. It is disappointing for
me to read how poorly informed you are, as Directeur de la Publication/Editor,
despite the good work you've done in the past. Maybe you should rather have
stayed a few more years in your German gymnasium.

How can the French administration continually ignore international treaties as
well as local court decisions? See :
- L'Amendment rejete par l'Assemble nationale de 25.Avril 1996
- L'Arret du Tribunal Administratif de ***Papeete*** du 26.Oct.1993
- L'Arret du 12 Decembre 1990 dans les affaires jointes C-100/89 et
C-101/89 Cour de Justice des Communautees Europees
- Traite de Maastricht, Article 171

On the 29.10.1997 "La Depeche" wrote under
"L'Europe menace La France"
"....Pour ce qui est des territoires d'outre-mer, Jean-Jack Queyranne et ses
interlocateurs ont evoque la revision a mi-parcours de la decision d'association et
de la repartition du VIIIeme FED(Fonds europeen de developpement). Le 6
octobre dernier, a Luxembourg, un compromis avait ete trouve entre les Quinze
mais un juge neerlandais a intente un recours, ce qui risque de encore trainer le
dossier. Pour contourner ce blocage, la delegation francaise a propose que le
volet FED, celui des finances, soit traite a part afin que les fonds puissent etre
debloquees. Les representants de la commission Europeenne ont paru donner
leur accord, sous reserve que ce fut juridiquement possible.
Lors de l'entretien avec le commisaire Monti, il a ete question du droit
d'etablissement en Polynesie francaise. Le represant de la Commission a
rappele que la France etait en infraction avec l'article 171 du traite du fait des
delibertion de l'Assemblee de Polynesie qui limite le libre etablissement sur le
territoire. Ce qui place Paris sous la menace d'une astreinte financiere tres
lourde (200 000 euro par jour, soit 1,2 million FF ou 21,8 millions CFP par
jour)......

I can send you copies by snail mail of the above if you desire and decide to
revoke you "final message" policy.

I guess the future will tell if you have the guts to publish our ENTIRE E-Mail
dialog, word by word. Put it on your website if Tahiti Pacifique does not have
enough room, we'll do the same...

Or do you prefer to whimp out by writing a "selected facts only" short story about
the liberated female N0 12 751 and the Do Gooder No 26 320? (Yes, Erika
becomes a real Jewish American Bitch if you challenge her !)

If you can count on the fact that the Tahitian BMW dealer shares your deep
seeded anti-German hatred, we will then rather change our thread to opening an
authentic German kebab stand across the street from your villa in Moorea.

E te enata koekoe e 'ua, a taki omua 'oe i te papapoho mei oto o to 'oe mata, a
tahi a ite toitoi 'oe no te taki i te ka'u hunahuna ti mei oto o te kikomata o te hoa.

Much Love,
Achim Klemmt, Dipl.Ing.



"Lots of Empty Space" For you to respond, Alex du Prel !
Anybody who would like to participate in this forum is also welcome.
Please contribute to the "Tahiti bond forum/guestbook" or send e-mail to :
FletcherChristian@pangaea.to

Meanwhile you can also let your feelings be heard by Alex du Prel at:
tahitipm@mail.pf


Webmaster Helmut an Mr. du Prel vom 24.01.99

Hallo Mr. ALEX DU PREL,

wie gut, dass ich in dem Briefwechsel (per email) zwischen Ihnen und Erika (+ Achim) lesen konnte, dass Sie besser Deutsch sprechen als unsere geliebte Erika. So kann ich meine Anmerkungen zu diesem wirklich haarstraebenden Email- Wechsel ja in der von Ihnen so gehassten Sprache loswerden.

Zunaechst muss ich nach dem Studium dieses Disputes sagen, dass ich noch nie soviel Arroganz, Hass und Vorurteile ueber unser "neues" Deutschland gelesen habe, wie in diesem Briefwechsel.

Kann es nicht endlich genug sein, soviel (sehr willkommenen) Hass ueber ein Volk auszuschuetten, welches nun seit mehr als 50 Jahren Asche auf sein Haupt gestreut hat? Es ist bestimmt sehr angenehm einen Pruegelknaben in Europa (weltweit?) zu besitzen, auf den man bei jeder Gelegenheit einschlagen kann, um von den eigenen oder anderen wichtigen Problemen abzulenken. Ich gehoere zu der ersten Nachkriegsgeneration die es jetzt wirklich nicht mehr hoeren kann, wie sehr wir uns weiterhin (wie lange??) ueber unsere Vergangenheit schaemen mussten und dabei moeglichst viel Geld an ALLE bezahlen, damit die Scham nicht mehr ganz so schlimm ist.

Die groessten Schreier sind hierbei die Ex- Deutschen , die EX Nazis(?), die die Ex- Emigranten. Wo sind die ganzen EX- Nazis geblieben, die sich nach dem Kriege weit in die Suedsee, Suedamerika, Mittelamerika abgestzt haben, um Ihrer Strafe zu entgehen? Die Nachkommen dieser Schergen sitzen heute in erstklassigen Positionen ihrer Laender und schuetten weiterhin Kuebel von Hass und Dreck ueber Deutschland.

Ist es bis jetzt nicht zu Ihnen gedrungen, dass wir in Deutschland die stabilste Demokratie, das liberalste Grundgesetz, das liberalste Auslaender- und Asylgesetz in Europa haben. Bei uns haben die "Rechten" einen Anteil von unter 1% (einem!!) der Bevoelkerung. Trotzdem: wenn einer von diesen Arschloech... einen Furz laesst, so steht es anschliessend als Headline bei den Pharisaeern NL/FR/USA/BE/UK/ESP/IT etc. auf der ersten Seite. Grosses Gezeter und Schmutz auf "Die Deutschen". Ich finde es zum Kotzen.

Wir haben die erste, wirkliche Regierung mit GRUENEN in Ministerämtern. Hier wird Umweltpolotik gemacht, die den Wirtschaftsbossen weltweit (Klima etc.) stinkt. Hier wird ernsthaft ueber eine doppelte Staatsbuergerschaft diskutiert und wohl auch gesetzliche Wirklichkeit. Was wird aus der EU, wenn der dicke, deutsche Netteozahler (16 Millarden US Dollar!! im Jahr), mal nicht mehr bereit ist, seine Scham ueber das Nazideutschland mit Geld zu ersticken? Ich hoffe und bete, dass unser Kanzler endlich den Mut findet um diesen Pharisaeer und geldgierigen "guten Europaeer" auf die Finger zu klopfen. Was in den letzten Wochen in Strassbourg an Korruption und Vetternwirtschaft (nur von NICHT- Nazi- Laendern) mit Millarden Schaeden zum Vorschein gekommen ist, macht mich maechtig wuetend und aggresiv.

Wenn diese Wut so ausgelegt wird, dass es "Rechthaberei" ist, so bin ich einverstanden. Was treibt denn die USA dazu, einem Saddam Hussein so energisch auf die Finger zu klopfen? Wut und Enttaeschung ueber die Reaktion der "befreundeten" Staaten. Nicht zuletzt die Franzosen, die immer und ueberall zunaechst ihr Geschaeft machen wollen. Egal welche politischen Hintergruende es hat, oder wieviel Menschelben oder Natur auf dem Spiel steht (Muroroa- Atoll).

Ich habe jedenfalls den Mut und die Wut, diesen Briefwechsel und die gesamte Dokumentation darueber (Tahiti- Bond??) im Internet einem grossem, internationalen Publikum zugaenglich zu machen. Hier kann sich jeder ein eigenes Urteil bilden und -vielleicht- entsprechend handeln.

Sie koennen alles finden unter der URL:
http://www.pangaea.to/tahiti


Soweit es meine beruflichen Moeglichkeiten gestatten, werde ich diese Info Seiten an alle wichtigen Suchmaschinen anmelden. Was ist das INTERNET doch fuer eine wunderbare, neue, weltweite Kommunikations- Moeglichkeit.

In diesem Sinne, mit den herzlichsten Geruessen aus dem "neuen" Deutschland

Helmut van Straelen, webmaster of Erikas wandering website


Mr. du Prel vom 24.01.99 an den Webmaster Helmut

X-Sender: tahitipm@pop36.pf
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 11:40:13 -1000
To: hvs@rhein-land.com
From: tahitipm@mail.pf (Tahiti-Pacifique Magazine)
Subject: Tahiti
Lieber Herr Helmuth von strahlen,

Sie haben geschrieben :
Zunaechst muss ich nach dem Studium dieses Disputes sagen, dass ich noch nie soviel Arroganz, Hass und Vorurteile ueber unser "neues" Deutschland gelesen habe, wie in diesem Briefwechsel.
Ich antworte auf Deutsch, ebenso ich es seit 40 Yahre nicht mehr uebe. So vergeben sie die Fehler.

Vielleicht sollten sie wiederlesen wass ICH geschrieben habe, nicht die Erika und Ihrem Ehemann. Da ist kein Deutschen Hass. Da ist viel Humor in meinem Zeilen und anscheinlich is dass Heute eine sehr seltene Sache in Ihrem "Neues Deutscland",die nicht mehr verstanden wird.

Kann es nicht endlich genug sein, soviel (sehr willkommenen) Hass ueber ein Volk auszuschuetten, welches nun seit mehr als 50 Jahren Asche auf sein Haupt gestreut hat? Es ist bestimmt sehr angenehm einen Pruegelknaben in Europa (weltweit?) zu besitzen, auf den man bei jeder Gelegenheit einschlagen kann, um von den eigenen oder anderen wichtigen Problemen abzulenken. Ich gehoere zu der ersten Nachkriegsgeneration die es jetzt wirklich nicht mehr hoeren kann, wie sehr wir uns weiterhin (wie lange??) ueber unsere Vergangenheit schaemen mussten und dabei moeglichst viel Geld an ALLE bezahlen, damit die Scham nicht mehr ganz so schlimm ist.

Wass ist dass fuer ein Unsinn. Wo habe ICH irgend sowass geschrieben ? Wass hat Tahiti und die Marquesas mit diesem Kwatch zu tun ?

Die groessten Schreier sind hierbei die Ex- Deutschen , die EX Nazis(?), die die Ex- Emigranten. Wo sind die ganzen EX- Nazis geblieben, die sich nach dem Kriege weit in die Suedsee, Suedamerika, Mittelamerika abgestzt haben, um Ihrer Strafe zu entgehen? Die Nachkommen dieser Schergen sitzen heute in erstklassigen Positionen ihrer Laender und schuetten weiterhin Kuebel von Hass und Dreck ueber Deutschland.

Mehr Unsinn. Ich bin in 1946 geboren (Neo-Nazi ??), und nicht mal in Deutschland. So, wenn ein Auslaender sich die Muehe genommen hat Deusch zu lernen, wird er dann als Nazi gebrandet ???? (All of you out there, for haven's sake, don't waste your time learning german ! ).
Ihren Brief und der Brief des Ehemanns der Erika zeigt eine paranoische Obsession mit der Deutschen Nazi Geschichte, ein Schuldkomplex den Ich von Tahiti leider nicht heilen kann.

Ist es bis jetzt nicht zu Ihnen gedrungen, dass wir in Deutschland die stabilste Demokratie, das liberalste Grundgesetz, das liberalste Auslaender- und Asylgesetz in Europa besitzen. Bei uns haben die "Rechten" einen Anteil von unter 1% (einem!!) der Bevoelkerung. Trotzdem: wenn einer von diesen Arschloech... einen Furz laesst, so steht es anschliessend als Headline bei den Pharisaeern in NL/FR/UK/IT/ESP/USA etc. auf der ersten Seite. Grosses Gezeter und Schmutz auf "Die Deutschen". Ich finde es zum Kotzen.

Gut oder schlecht fuer Deucshland ! Dass ist Ihr problem. Wass habe ich damit zu tun ? Dass interessiert mich ueberhaupt nicht.

Wir haben die erste, wirkliche Regierung mit GRUENEN in Ministeraemtern. Hier wird Umweltpolotik gemacht, die den Wirtschaftsbossen weltweit (Klima etc.) stinkt. Hier wird ernsthaft ueber eine doppelte Staatsbuergerschaft diskutiert und auch wohl gesetzliche Wirklichkeit. Was wird aus der EU, wenn der dicke, deutsche Netteozahler (16 Millarden US Dollar!! im Jahr), mal nicht mehr bereit ist, seine Scham ueber das Nazideutschland mit Geld zu ersticken? Ich hoffe und bete, dass unser Kanzler endlich den Mut findet um diese Pharisaeer und geldgierigen "guten Europaeer" auf die Finger zu klopfen. Was in den letzten Wochen in Strassbourg an Korruption und Vetternwirtschaft (nur von NICHT- Nazi- Laendern) mit Millarden Schaeden zum Vorschein gekommen ist, macht mich maechtig wuetend und aggresiv.

So wass?. Ich habe Deuschland NIE ein Pfennig gefragt, genommen oder geborgt. Wass hat dass mit mir zu tun ?

Wenn diese Wut so ausgelegt wird, dass es "Rechthaberei" ist, so bin ich einverstanden. Was treibt denn die USA dazu, einem Saddam Hussein so energisch auf die Finger zu klopfen? Wut und Enttaeschung ueber die Reaktion der "befreundeten" Staaten. Nicht zuletzt die Franzosen, die immer und ueberall zunaechst ihr Geschaeft machen wollen. Egal welche politischen Hintergruende es hat, oder wieviel Menschleben oder Natur auf dem Spiel steht (Muroroa- Atoll).

Wass habe Ich, auf meiner Insel mit Saddam zu tun ? Ich habe keine Wut. Vielleicht lesen sie nicht gut English. Ich lache von diesem Unsinn, habe aber ein venig Traurigkeit dass noch ein "do-gooder" der alles besser weiss anfaengt zu toben wie ein "spoiled child" wenn er in den Marquesas nicht alles wie in Deutschland findet.
Zufall macht Sachen gut. Es ist letztes Monat ein Buch ueber die Marquesas in Paris publiziert worden, von einer Dame die dort 2 Jahre gelebt hat. ("Aux Marquises", Dominique Agniel, Editions L'Harmattan, Paris, 1998, ISBN 2-7384-7079-3. Seite 216 ist geschrieben:
Sur une île on accueille celui qui vient de la mer avec enthousiasme comme on respire une bouffée d'oxygène. En même temps, l'étranger est une menace pour l'équilibre fragile des sociétés îliennes. C'est pourquoi les relations entre popa'a (blancs) et Marquisiens, dès la première rencontre avec les Espagnols en 1595, oscillent toujours entre l'attirance et la méfiance. D'un côté, les Marquisiens ont une fascination et une immense curiosité pour les nouveaux venus. De l'autre, les popa'a, d'abord séduits, se mettent dans la tête de vouloir changer les choses, et reproduire systématiquement le mode de fonctionnement occidental. Ils s'investissent, s'engagent, et vitupèrent sans cesse contre l'inertie générales

Dass ist ganz genau die Beschreibung von wass die Erika jetzt lebt:
Ich habe jedenfalls den Mut und die Wut, diesen Briefwechsel und die gesamte Dokumentation darueber (Tahiti- Bond??) im Internet einem grossem, internationalen Publikum zugaenglich zu machen. Hier kann sich jeder ein eigenes Urteil bilden und -vielleicht- entsprechend handeln.
Endlich geben sie zu dass Sie Wut haben. Ich kann nur eines einstellen : ihres "Neues Deutschland" scheint Leute nicht sehr gluecklich zu machen, sollten alle wie Sie so viel Hass und Wut in Ihrem Herzen tragen und sofort "explodieren" wenn einer eine andere Weltanschauung hat. Auch, wie kann mann von einer Deutschen Grosstadt oder einem Kuhdorf verstehen wass in der Suedsee passiert ?

Sollten sie anfangen besser verstehen zu wollen, kann ich Ihnen 2 Buecher (Deutsche uebersetzungen) empfehlen:
"Blaue Traueme" und "Verruecktes Paradies", von Alex W. duPREL, Tanner Verlag , (derselbe der das "Papalangi" herrausgebracht hat !) Wachstr. 20, Adliswill, Schweiz.

Das Erstaunlichste in dieser ganzen Geschichte ist dieses :
Da lebt ein armer Kerl aleine auf einer Insel und kummert sich um seine Sachen. Kommt da an ein E-mail von ein histaerisches Weib auf einem Schiff . Mann antworted mit Humor aber dass verstehen die Anderen nicht. Dann; nur weil Ich geschrieben habe dass meine Mutter Deutsch und adelig war, bin ich sofort in der fertilen und paranoischen Einbildung dieser Leute, sogar beim "Webmaster", ein ex-Nazi, ex-Emigrant (?) geworden ebenso diese Leute ueberhaupt nichts, aber wirklich nichts, von mir kennen. Wie mehr krank im Kopf kann man sein ?
Dann lese ich auf Internet dass wegen ich solchen psykopathischen Kwatsch nicht antworte bin ich ein "Mann ohne Mut" ! Mein Gott !
Verstehen sie denn nicht dass der Grund ich seit 26 Jahre gluecklich auf meiner Insel hier lebe ist dass ich von solchen "Allwissenden" aud "Rechthaber" weggerannt bin ?
Und jetz verfolgen sie mich durch Internet! Arme Welt !
Dass sie den Briefwechsel auf Internet publizieren ist gut und ich hoffe sie werden diesen Brief einschliessen. Ich bin Stolz von wass Ich geschrieben habe und Ich moechte Ihnen schon danken fuer die freie Werbung. Das wird sicher ein "site" sein den die Psychologen sehr interressiert wird. Wenn da manche Andere lernen mich hassen, um so besser, denn ich hoffe dass solche Leute von mir weit, weit weg bleiben.

Dass ist alles und ich werde nichts mehr antworten nicht weil ich feige bin, aber weil alles gesagt ist und da es unmoeglich ist unsere beiden Welten sich zu verstehen.

Jetzt werde ich dieses senden und mich wieder um meine Tahitianische Familie und meinen Freunden kuemmern, wo es nur Lachen, Freude, Schoenheit und Sonne gibt mit Leuten ohne "Hang-ups", Nazi Schuld im Kopf und die das Schoene im Leben sehen, mit wem es Wert ist zu sprechen und zu leben.

So ich wuensche Ihnen alles Bestes in Ihrem grosses "Neues Deutschland", "die stabilste Demokratie, das liberalste Grundgesetz, das liberalste Auslaender- und Asylgesetz in Europa besitzen! wo "Umweltpolitik gemacht, die den Wirtschaftsbossen weltweit (Klima etc.) stinkt. Hier wird ernsthaft ueber eine doppelte Staatsbuergerschaft diskutiert und auch wohl gesetzliche Wirklichkeit.".
Nur dort bleiben!
Alex W. du PREL
Directeur de la Publication / Publisher and editor
TAHITI-PACIFIQUE Magazine
B.P. 368, MOOREA, French Polynesia
Tel : (+689) 56 28 94
Fax : (+689) 56 30 07
E-mail : tahitipm@mail.pf
Website : http://www.tahitiweb.com/f/info/index.html


Erika to Mr. du Prel , 01st. Feb. 99

I wrote to Alex du Prel:
Got any courage? Hey there, it's that "hysteric, righteous, paranoid, (all three words spelled wrong in your letter) frustrated and domineering Western female" Erika here, just wondering:

since you found the letters so amusing and were willing to share them with a bunch of important doctors and professors at a luncheon in Papeete, do you have the COURAGE to put a LINK to our correspondence IN YOUR MAGAZINE? You said it makes good publicity for you... go ahead. Let's just see how willing to share your REAL point of view you are with your readers! We're even happy to give you the last word, I especially love the "they can't take a joke" response!
Comon, Alex, show your colors:
http://www.pangaea.to/tahiti
Erika Ginsberg-Klemmt, s/y Pangaea

Answere from Alex:
You wrote ;
Hey there, it's that "hysteric, righteous, paranoid, (all three words spelled wrong in your letter) frustrated and domineering Western female"

Oh my God, she did find spelling mistakes ! How GREAT ! how WONDERFULL, how RIGHT ! how SUPERIOR ! She is a spelling bee ! She's the BEST ! since you found the letters so amusing and were willing to share them with a bunch of important doctors and professors at a luncheon in Papeete, do you have the COURAGE to put a LINK to our correspondence IN YOUR MAGAZINE? You said it makes good publicity for you... go ahead. 2 reasons I will not do that :
1) the exchange is in 3 languages. This kind of dramatically limits the readershipS
2) My readers are used to interesting, intelligent, even humourous subjects.
It is a respected magazine (I hope). I have too much respect for these people to bore them with whinings and tantrums of frustrated yachtpersons.

You might think this exchange is great stuff, actually it's boring "s.St" to normal humans.
By the way, I did not get a single e-mail (except from your provincial Jerry webmaster) since you posted the stuff, evenso you call on all to write me. It shows nobody gives a hoot and that your site seems be the best kept secret on the Net.

But I understand your frustration and craving for an audience (recognition)S Nag your husband a bitS

alex
P.S. I included a few spelling mistakes to make you feel good (superior) ! Alex W. du PREL
Directeur de la Publication / Publisher and editor
TAHITI-PACIFIQUE Magazine
 

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